Also, for double bonus points, can you tell us what Al Buon Gusto's slogan was? Dagon is one of the few places on the Upper West Side that serves equally delicious brunch, dinner, and late-night drinks. Like a precursor to Tony Roma's and Rachel's,they had onion ring bricks. And David Brenners pool hall on Amsterdam with a lounge and fireplace!! 7 elevated The August 1984 edition of monthly downtown arts newspaper the East Village Eyefeatured a cover story on Lou Reed timed to the release of his New Sensations LP. New York City in 3D in the Gilded Age was referenced in a terrific Feb. 27 Travel section article about the city's Gilded Age past. Though future scholars may debate the true victor of the hot dog wars an argument can be made that Papaya King reigns supreme Grays famous Recession Special (now two hot dogs and a drink for $6.45), first introduced in the 1980s, is as delicious as it is sadly eternally timely. I moved into my first UWS apartment in 1988 at the Milburn Hotel, 242 W. 76th Street, 11th floor. Stop by for a half-bird with skin that tastes like its coated in brown sugar, and add a side of boiled green bananas. Barney Greengrass541 Amsterdam Ave., nr. Every two or three nigiri rounds will be broken up by a cooked dish like tempura fried hake in a mushroom broth. Columbus Ave; 212-362-3800. The Ribbon is here to rescue! I have to say that was the most beautiful, specific, and colorful article Ive read in a long time. Thank you for an uplifting story and the memories I have lived her since 1972 and Cafe La Fortunate was the place to go for wonderful coffee before wonderful coffee was a thing. . The smell of the chickens roasting that wafts out of the shop is just heavenly. Brooks Headley Loves Every Inch of the New Superiority Burger. Re Caffe Taci, City Opera, not New York State Opera. Which means you should be ordering their turkey sandwich. Remus had Aventine; Romulus had Palatine; Barney has Amsterdam; and Murray has Broadway. 12 Best Upper West Side NYC Restaurants To Eat At (+ What To Order). Loved reading itespecially during a time when the Upper West is not getting such great play. This is a wonderful recollection of the UWS back in the day. Its been close to 40 years since Michael Tong opened this Lincoln Center offshoot of his upscale East Side Chinese restaurant, Shun Lee Palace (and thats long enough for us to make an exception to this lists no-spinoffs policy). - Dr. Cox on Scrubs. The Cattleman. Thanks for taking me back down memory lane. It was on something like 74 St. and Columbus, and I remember my brother taking me out for dinner there when our folks were out separately. Born in Germany with a mother of Jewish background, I always felt I had been born into the wrong country. And yes, Victor's (Cuban) was somewhere up there, before it opened on 52nd Street. Nicholas Braun has a new bar. Reading it makes my heart beat faster and my body shiver with the joy of all our city friends, neighbors, and perhaps most of all friendly strangers. Upper West Side NYC Restaurants. 15. 108 Food Dried Hot Pot2794 Broadway, nr. Basta cos. This is a perfect place to pick up some takeout for your kids or to have a casual meal with a friend for around $20. The space is bright and pleasant, with big windows and some leafy vines scattered throughout, and theres a bar in the back in case you want to dine solo. The usurper to Heinzs throne is no more. 198?- present. Day Drinking at the East Village Dive Bar Sophies on Valentines Day, Who has a drink at 3 p.m. on a Tuesday? The sturgeon, however, is golden, the schmaltz herring properly cured, and the salmon as silken as a lullaby. A coq au vin is offered as dark as night, the chicken-liver mousse as light as air. Gramercy Tavern. Enter your email address to follow Ephemeral New York and receive notifications of new posts by email. Culinarians in the know may be familiar with Daniel Bouluds Skybox, a four-top tucked above the kitchen at his flagship, Daniel. Alan looked a little like Howard Stern who worked out at the same gym as I. 1. 82nd St.; 212-595-0380. What to order: Nova Scotia Salmon Scrambled Eggs, Pastrami Sandwich, Chicken Liver, Address: 541 Amsterdam Ave, New York, NY 10024. The article includes this photo of a cool-looking Reed taken in front of an anonymous pizza shop somewhere in New York City, with a great chalkboard menu beside him (veal and peppers parm $4.75). 5. Sushi Nonaka offers a couple of omakase options starting at $105 (as well as la carte sushi), with a selection of fish that changes depending on what they get shipped that day. I moved to the UWS in 1978. We enjoyed so many of the places you mentioned. The upper west side has always been a place where diversity and a sense of community thrived. One requirement for identifying yourself as a New Yorker is being able to name your favorite neighborhood diner. At the same time, even in 1981, Tong was channeling the ancient flavors of Yangzhou, Sichuan, and Shanghai, and those delicate balances found in the push-pull of hot-and-sour soup, for instance, or the mellow sweetness of red-cooked short ribs, Hangzhoustyle. They often appear as ordinary rocks, yet, broken open, reveal true beauty. Dont forget to rub that apricot and chile jam all over and enjoy it! Anything that comes out of the fryer is golden: carciofi, fritto misto, ricotta balls. Anyone may read the forums, but to post you must create a freeaccount. And four months later, another big one: Peter Meehan of the New York Times stopped by , for the outlets $25 And Under vertical . Now thinking about Cafe Lalos early days, when Ollies was on 84th st., Yuki on 91st, when Saigon Grill was the first restaurant that I knew of that kept your phone number for faster ordering. Valenti is back with a bistro he calls the Oxbow Tavern. I've mentioned some before. Co-founder, Society for Culinary Arts & Letters, sshaw@egstaff.org Al Buon Gusto was there? These small bites are often accompanied by only a touch of homemade soy sauce or exotic salt. What a rich place were privileged to know. Absolute Bagels2788 Broadway, nr. Even though celebrated on Broadway, my roommate Ascanio wouldnt get picked up by cabs when he hailed them. , Hey neighbor, you sound like a beautiful person. Loved this! When youre eating hefty pieces of king salmon and Japanese mackerel, youll really feel like youre getting your moneys worth. Fish. Enjoyed this article so much! Director, New Media Studies, International Culinary Center (take my food-blogging course). WebBooked 37 times today. 89th St.;212-724-2650. Of course, now it's been Cleopatra's Needle for years, the food is different, and the interior is radically changed from the former groovy but dark 60s style, but it is in the same location. The fried chicken here (the original location was in Harlem) is famously made in a cast iron skillet rather than a deep fryer, and the meat comes out tender beneath a well-seasoned crust. Among them are the house slice, grated post-oven with two-year-old parmesan and sprinkled with a greenhouses worth of basil, and the Angry Nonna, made spicy with Calabrian chile oil and soppressata, and sweet with honey. Easy to miss until you walk through the narrow hallway and the world opens up to you, the Milling Room is a giant, overlooked jewel of the Upper West. 98th St.; 646-861-3604. Ive been here 30 years too and have watched all of those fabulous places close down and not much has taken their place. Made me ache for some things I missed because I was otherwise occupied. Announcing a new leader in the competition: V&T Pizza says 1945. This Upper West Side newcomer has quickly ushered itself as one of the neighborhood's most important restauants. Recently, while reading a novel published in the 80s I discovered a reference to it. Had a nice truffle festival as I recall. Being extremely famous for its stunning brunch dishes, Miriam has long been the locals hidden gem and will keep people lining up for a seat on weekends! My favorite was Chun Cha Foo, a Mandarin restaurant between 91st and 92nd on Broadway. They had delicious burgers. Go to Appearance > Customize > Subscribe Pop-up to set this up. Joe, who was Mr. Olympia number 18 in the 1950s, exercises every night in Riverside park, with two shopping bags at 96, his mind sharp as a tack. Leach and we did our laundry at Soapn Suds also around the corner on Columbus. As is the food. New York City in 3D in the Gilded Age made Entertainment Weekly's Must Have list for the week of June 27! This casual Thai restaurant on Amsterdam Avenue specializes in street food. 94th St.; 212-932-2400. Tiny and round like a softball, each springy dough globe youll find here has a blistered bottom. All of that changed after John Lennon was killed but at the time it was great knowing that ppl who could live anywhere they pleased chose my neighborhood , Leda: haha, I found the perfect mate a couple of times but didnt know it till I found myself , Loved your beautifully written memories. Caf Luxembourg200 W. 70th St., nr. It is still owned by the same people. by the dakota, in 1982-5ish? Team Player; Personable; Blog at WordPress.com. No-one's mentioned Gitlitz yet in this thread, the good Jewish delicatessen that was for many years on 77 St. and Broadway. Tuesday's - you could get a rack of ribs, big salad with lots of fresh blue cheese, and a baked potato for $9.99. Not knowing anyone with only $500 in my pocket I came to New York to pursue acting and dancing just like Gene Kelly had done. This was long before the area got gentrified and it was the best. Restaurant 222 - on 79th St. Edited to add: I am not sure, but I think he may have been a regular there as far back as the 50s as well. Though theres no red sauce here, the sourdough-battered chicken in pastella may just be the best fried chicken in the city. Ephemeral New York in the NEW YORK DAILYNEWS! Places I miss: Al Buon Gusto: first on 72nd St, then around the corner (I think @SQC has that space now.) ABG was inexpensive italian, I remember t We have Dunkin Donuts and 7 eleven now instead of Korean Delis or coffee shops. Oxbow Tavern240 Columbus Ave., nr. You have to read a book to find a boyfriend? There is no way he could have known the title which I had hidden. Ephemeral New York was featured in a wonderful NY Post story on July 20 on the Gilded Age city. 84th St.; 212-874-4559. There was also a Japanese place (I think it was the Dan, which then moved to its current location on the southeast corner of Broadway and 69th) on the northwest corner of Broadway and 69th, where the North Fork is now. The Red Baron -- that was a really strange place; so dark and ominous, corner of 69th and Columbus, Sidewalkers -- the crab place on 72nd between Columbus and CPW, I think where Sambuca is now, Captain Nemo -- 72nd between Columbus and Amsterdam, seafood. Born and raised here since 1957 it does change and your mention of many businesses that have gone made me so nostalgic . One day I was reading a book with the title How to find the perfect mate. I had folded the cover over so no one could see this embarrassing title. Thanks for your smiles and happy recollections. I don't know how old Pier 72 is, the coffee shop on West End and 72nd. On the next warm, breezy night, grab a wicker chair on the sidewalk patio here and eat some mussels in a dijonnaise sauce. This extremely rich, fatty pork broth, fresh noodles, soft-yolk eggs, and tender pork belly that melts in the mouth can make you fall in love in just a bite! We especially like the hummus. So the great sturgeon wars of the Upper West Side have panned out. I was impressed. Three months later, the New York Daily News came calling. Thanks. And dont worry, its not as spicy as its name might suggest. What to order: Buffalo Cauliflower, Prime Rib Of Pork, The Ox Burger, Smoked Salmon & Egg Benedict, Address: 20 W 72nd St, New York, NY 10023. McGlades, a tavern across from ABC, it's a Starbucks now. I have lived on the Upper West Side all of my life, remember so many of the things you wrote about so beautifully. What a treasure it is to live here! Between an appetizer and an entree, you can easily walk away having spent $30 on an exciting dinner here. thanks for reminding me of the west side I moved into. This slow-cooked rib is incredibly melt-off-the-bone and youll never regret having it! From classic Jewish delis and Dominican standbys to some of the best places to eat Szechuan or Vietnamese food in Manhattanthe options on the Upper West Side will satisfy nearly any mood you (or the people you need to please) are in. Columbus Ave.; 212-877-2874. Your options range from salads and vegetarian mousaka to lamb chops and a whole grilled fish, and you should always start with a few of the dips. Hi-Life Bar & Grill is one of the Upper West sides most popular and longstanding neighborhood restaurants (est. Much to my surprise, Fine & Schapiro turns out not to be in Zagat. Chanterelle (New York City restaurant) Chelsea Place. This deli and appetizing storeopen for over 100 years nowhas a small dining room with vinyl seating and historical murals on the walls, and that's where you should be eating bagels, sturgeon, latkes, and eggs with a side of lox. Oh my, you just cant resist them! The Lyonnaise chef Daniel Boulud is a shape-shifter: stuffy on the Upper East, transactional in midtown, and here, in the Upper West Side, pure comfort. Brought me right back. Learn how your comment data is processed. I hope she gets to see what all of her fans have to say Broadway; 212-595-1313. And the tables, though hard to come by, turn often. )and vague memories of the China Club LOL. Little amaryllis of meat, said a friend, who works at a nearby flower shop. The first movie I got to see was Gene Kelly in On The Town at age 5 and I knew: I had to go to this magical place called New York where you can sing and dance. Every two or three nigiri rounds will be broken up by a cooked dish like tempura fried hake in a mushroom broth and maybe a smoked goldeneye snapper collar if youre lucky. Since it opened in the early aughts, the cafe has drawn from the shelves during the day (silver dollar pancakes, tuna melts) and the meat counter at night (skirt steak Toscana, beef Wellington with foie gras, a panoply of burgers). Leonti103 W. 77th St., nr. New York has been, and IS, everything to me. Thank you, neighbors! Over the years Ive made two feature films on the UWS inspired by the stories of people I met here. 8. Kebab Aur Sharab ($) Indian, Kabobs Menu Available. And the little old Russian lady at the piano was Iya, who has passed away. Winsome is still the best and classes at Thea Koreks above Fairway. And who knew at the time tha we would all miss Big Nick so much! Loved every word of this. I now see how lucky I am to have lived here for the past 30 years. What to order: Sasso Chicken Liver Mouse, Shish Barak, Crispy Roasted Lamb, Basbousa, Address: 2454 Broadway, New York, NY 10024. Such a wonderful trip down memory lane. That was the first time we tried their shroom and sausage slice as well as the cacio e pepe pizza with its four types of cheese and cracked black pepper, both of which will enrich your life in ways you have yet to fathom. Our favorite is the pork shoulder one, but they also do them with steak, chicken, and shrimp. But for 40 years, for 24 hours a day, among the snappy hot dogs and frothy papaya drinks, Grays Papaya has given New Yorkers (and temporary New Yorkers) a place to stand and watch life go by. Indulgent, expensive, and absolutely amazing in every bite! If youre going to brunch at Jacobs Pickles, bring a handful of Tums and a big group of friendsthen order a bunch of heavy Southern comfort food with reckless abandon. Hesitate no more, and lets jump right into the best Upper West Side Restaurants that we have specially picked for you! 71st St.; 646-490-4075. There are several that feel rather ancient, like the Emerald Inn on Columbus between 69th and 70th. There must be a bunch of them around, since there are so many pre-WWII buildings in the neighborhood that were obviously designed for well-to-do people to live in. A wonderful neighborhood spot! By Robert Sietsema August 15, 2022. I worked pt at a boutique around the corner, J.L. WebRestaurant Team Member - Crew (1122 - Upper West Side) New York, New York. Really well done!!! WebCaf des Artistes. If you think of the best place in the Upper West Side to serve the best dumplings, think of Jing Fong. We hope you have some favorite spots in your mind, dont forget to share with us your own experience dining at those places. ", Martin's Restaurant & Pub, Bway betw. A typical meal might include banana pakoras, mung daal, alu gobi, fresh pappadam, and broken wheat kheer. Mental Floss magazine named ENY's new book "New York City in 3D in the Gilded Age" one of their 5 favorite reads for August 2014! The best things about this French bistro on 104th Street and Broadway are the long list of French wines in the $20 range and the food thats consistently buttery and delicious. The restaurant, which opened in 2014, occupies the former Palm Room of the Endicott Hotel, a soaring, skylit space thats easier to fill with light than with people. Lovely and loving. With a blizzard of cayenne and paprika, and a twice-fried, flaky exterior, the sandwich is like a combination of Nashville version flavor and Korean fried chicken texture. The Absolute Best Restaurants on the Upper West Side. And let us not forget Tip Toe Inn, beloved by my grandfather and his wife when they moved to the UWS in the 1970s. 18. Yo quiero pancakes! According to William Grimes in the New York Times, Cafe des Artistes has been in business since 1917. 's Sacred Cow. Thanks for the lovely article. The "Tip Top" and "Steinberg's Dairy" were 2 of my favorites growing up, plus the Steakhouse on 72nd Street with the big cows eyes ? I think "Victo I cant decide if Im getting older or the city is losing its character and charm. Jacobs Pickles must be the star of the show by serving huge portion of brunch dishes in a spacious, casual, easy-going ambiance! You were so adventurous and brave and gained many memories. Big Nicks was my lunch staple and he knew our kids since they were born. Hesitate no more, and lets jump right into the best Upper West Side Restaurants that we have specially picked for you! Ela is a big, attractive Greek restaurant, and it's one of the best options for a somewhat upscale meal on the UWS. Web1980s1990s: Boy Bar (15 St. Marks Pl.) And those arent even the best slices here. Too bad it's gone. There are ribs and catfish tacos on the menu, but what you really come here for are the otherworldly biscuit sandwiches that are actually just huge piles of food that happen to include bread on the top and the bottom. No extra cost is added to you. I hope many more wonderful times are ahead for you & the UWS. The steakhouse Irwin refers to was Mrs. Weighed in a bowl, these ingredients are then whisked into a kitchen in the back and emerge, mere minutes later, as a delicious dried hot pot. At Awadh, Anands bi-level restaurant on Broadway, the lamb is as tender as the night, manna for the toothless. I also seem to recall them being on 68th between Broadway and Columbus, although I could be mistaken (this is when the Sony theatre/Reebok club was still a post office, obviously.). Its already Red Hooks most lived-in trattoria. Ephemeral New York in THE NEW YORKTIMES! A great read! The sushi tends to lean traditional here, but the slices of fish are notably thicker than what you may have seen elsewhere. Feels like heaven all the time! (1 Beginner 10 Expert) Traits. Some of these stores may still be in business on the West Side, but I haven't done a Broadway Drive in Years, Maybe I'll do one when I visit next month. Weren't a bunch of those around in the 1970s and earlier? Amsterdam Ave.; 212-873-7411. You know it is worth your money when you taste that garlicky, flavorsome, and rich broth, served with homemade noodles, caramelized soy chicken, and a ramen egg! And pair it with some Buffalo Cauliflower. Results 1 - 1 of 1 restaurants. Great reminder of the wonderful things that bring us together. We recommend this neighborhood spot for anything from a date to dinner with your family, just show up on the early side if you dont want to wait for a table since they dont accept reservations. We ate at The Cherry Restaurant which was really a diner- when we had money. 282 Grand Street. Will it be pigs ear, sliced into ribbons like meat fettuccine? I remember having Imam Bayildi for the first time at that meal. I can't remember it ever not being there. What to order: Seafood Soup, Tuna Tartare, Truffle Cheddar Burger, Mafaldine, Address: 201 W 79th St, New York, NY 10024, A post shared by NYC Cheesy Food (SFP) (@sayfromageplz). It was personal and made me melancholic. 68th and 69th? Kebab Aur Sharab ($) Indian, Kabobs Menu Available. (sorry) I LOVED that chain; they were all over, until when? People simply cant believe they finally have a better option than the so-so stuff theyve been surviving on locally for so long, especially for dinner. The casual set-up makes this place perfect for a meetup with a friend or a date near Amsterdam Avenue and 107th Street. 74th Street Cafe & Steakhouse2121 Broadway, nr. My roommates were a black Cuban Shakespearean actor named Ascanio Sharpe and the now-famous actor Jeffrey Wright who taught me slang and would crack up at my European accent. When I started law school at Fordham, which is down the street, he wrote me a letter of introduction to take to the owners. Here, the very best restaurants on the Upper West Side. The square pepperoni one is worth a trip across the city, and the classic margherita with fresh basil is just about as noteworthy as the one at Di Fara. Also, the corner grocery on West End and 72nd is licensed with a name like "San Juan Hill", which makes me strongly suspect it has been there for a long time. Thank you SO much for the wonderful, wonderful memories! Dont think of leaving if you havent had the Basbousa, a delicious coconut, yogurt, and semolina cake that gets sprinkled with nuts and drizzled with syrup to put the final seal of perfection! Its overflowing with people, and, more importantly, happiness. this is going to be a great thread to read, albiet not one I can contribute tomy only reference was the rib place on 72nd? Thank you in particular for mentioning my FAVORITE cashier at Fairway, Winsome.SUCH a lovey person, and her name suits her. According to their website, Westside Restaurant, Broadway and 69th, has been around since 1965. How many generations of Columbus Avenue we have seen! In a well-appointed ground-floor dining room that used to be John Frasers Dovetail, longtime Marc Vetri protg Adam Leonti delivers his Northern Italian cuisine in what looks like an Art Deco/Pop Art/Salon del Mobile installation (the design was heavily influenced by Ettore Sottsasss famous 1980s Memphis Group). Our less famous pizzerias are in danger of getting gobbled up. 72nd St.; 212-799-0243. The Allstate Cafe West End Avenue between Bway & West End. The space is akin to a more enlightened Shopsins: handmade, idiosyncratic, with lots of handwritten notes, but perhaps a few more sculptures of Ganesh. I arrived on the UWS in 1989, and remember Cafe la Fortuna well such fond memories. I always hope to get her when I am on line to pay! Boulud Sud20 W. 64th St., nr. Nice Matin. Follow Ephemeral New York on WordPress.com, Buy the 2016 Book! Smaller than Greengrass, Murrays Sturgeon is strictly a takeaway operation, but no less a marvel of mid-century Jewry. I lived on the UWS, on 69th and Columbus, from the time I was born in 1969 (or whenever it was that I came home from Mt. Pick up a sandwich, then take it back home or walk two blocks east to the park. another Cherry patron! I would bet the oldest restaurant on 72nd between West End and Broadway is All State Cafe, which dates back to the 1960's under that name. For a mild yet flavorful one, dont hesitate to go for the Chicken Ramen. What pizza place is Lou Reed posingbeside? Diane's had BIG (7-ounce) burgers with all sorts of toppings. What a great article, and what a great place to have been for three decades! And the gruff bodega owner on the east side of Columbus between 76-77th Streets who wore roller blades? This Israeli restaurant is also open for dinner, and its a great option for a nice, casual night out. 9. Cafe Rouge (Hotel Pennsylvania) La Caravelle (New York City) Carnegie Deli. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. And I saw it all; thank you dear, for letting us in on such a precious, shimmering & deeply felt treat, one that swirled & spun until my eyes fairly brimmed with tears of joy and sadness. Dont believe us? Keep exploring our best restaurants in New York here! 4. Settle down with Bone-in BBQ Beef Rib with a smoky, sweet, savory, and full of flavors, then served with jalapeno cheese grits, biscuit, hot sour pickle chips, and pickled jalapenos. Write a Review! 60th and 61st. At the time, raw fish was a relatively new concept and I was a bit squeamish about it but was won over once I tried it. Even in the fairly short time I've been in my current apartment, several spots have turned over multiple times. Not sure if the location has changed or not. This article includes affiliate links where we may get a small commission if you use our link. Thanks to the Rag for publishing this fine story. While the Shakshuka is a simple dish made of soft cooked eggs, gently poached in a delicious chunky tomato and bell pepper sauce; the Croissant Sandwich is served hot and packed with flavors from bacon, fries, and roasted veggie! We had to wear pants under our pants, and it was worth it. During happy hour, he does brisk business in gaufrettes and gougres at the bar, incidentally the longest zinc bar in Manhattan, And the menu is AP Bistro. The Village Voice gave Ephemeral New York's new book a nice thumbs up. And then theres Absolute Bagels, the only bagel store worth the line. Much hay has rightly been made of the square pepperoni slice at Mamas Too!, the offshoot of Mamas, a mainstay of slice culture a few blocks south. Great spot for an espresso and biscotti. Love the dance picture! I'm also still very interested in finding out the names of the oldest restaurants in the neighborhood, like anything pre-WWII especially. I moved here in 1994 and have been here ever since, and have also compiled a long list of amazing stories, but I wish I wouldve run into you back in the day. Copyright 2001-2023 by the eGullet Society for Culinary Arts & Letters, All Rights Reserved I join you in thanking our neighbors. I did, and they remembered him (and treated me better because of it). Ephemeral New York was interviewed in a July 25 piece in The Greenwich Village Society for Historic Preservation's blog, Off the Grid. Caf la Fortuna was one of my favorites. 103 W. 77th St., nr. 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