I have some information concerning the assassination of President John Kennedy that I wish to submit for your scrutiny. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, my tires were slashed and damage done to my car and I believe sugar poured in the gas tank, and whether this was actually CIA or not I have no way of knowing, and it could also have been just for harassment as a result of antiwar activities but I think there is also a possibility that it could have been attempts to intimidate me into talking about the CIA. DL 100-10461. the day we would list all of the advances that were made in an advance book. Mr. DODD - I am just a little confused, I guess, over your reaction. Mr. WILCOTT - It was a book that I had. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you prepare such a list? Mr. GOLDSMITH - And, Mr. Wilcott, is it true that you are a former employee with the CIA and that you are here today testifying voluntarily without a subpoena? Mr. GOLDSMITH - How did this information concerning Oswald first come to your attention? Feel free to use any part of it as you please. [23] William Weston, Robert MacNeil and the Three Calm Men, in the November 1994 issue of The Fourth Decade. Mr. GOLDSMITH - What was their response? According to an FBI report dated November 22, 1963, warehouse manager Roy Truly said, The Texas School Book Depository has occupied the building at 411 Elm Street for only a few months. Mr. GOLDSMITH - How many months after the assassination was this? Mr. GOLDSMITH - And who is Jerry Fox? He said he went back inside and went into the basement for ten minutes, supposedly eating his lunch.[25]. She enjoyed keeping up on the Kennedy family during their years in the White House. In November 1963, on the Friday before Thanksgiving, President Kennedy was riding in a Lincoln convertible rolling through the streets of Dallas. All seven boxes had the names of schoolbook publishers stamped on them. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, they were such incidents as the FBI agent that was working with a group -- and this was an established fact that this person was an FBI agent and that he wa working with the group that I was working with an antiwar group and, to my mind, there is a very great likelihood that this person was there to neutralize me, as the CIA term went. of the Select Committee on Well, they would go through the files and take out anything that they thought was, say, indicative of how this flap occurred and change the files. The band started out in 1966 in Long Beach, California, and became known for its unique blend of country western and rock and roll. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. His mother was a strong, confident woman before the assassination, but afterwards she suffered a complete breakdown in her health and had to be hospitalized. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, the payments that were made especially to substations like Oswald's was operated -- it was a substation of the XXXXXXXX station, and they had one in XXXXXX and they had one in XXXXXXXXX-- and it may be six months or even a year after the intial allocation that the final accounting for those funds were submitted, and they would operate out of revolving funds or out of their own personal funds in many cases. It was not until 1999 that I located and spoke with Leslie Thompson, one of the original members. Mr. PREYER - Thank you for being here today, and I will call the subcommittee to order at this time. Then in 2009 I read and reviewed James Douglass's masterpiece, JFK and the Unspeakable, and my traumatic memories of 1963 and after came flooding back in full force. Wilcott lost a good job after leaving the CIA after his employer was told he would soon be under incitement when he wasnt and never was. Mr. SCHAAP - Do you mean, how many people who were in the CIA or how many people in the general population? Mr. WILCOTT - Not to my knowledge. Mr. WILCOTT - It is a little bit east of Oakland, California. Near the two freight elevators were Shelley and co-worker Billy Lovelady. Butler said that the 411 Elm Street building was vacant for at least a year after his company moved out. Mr. WILCOTT - No. James Wilcott worked out of the Tokyo CIA station at the time of the assassination. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you discuss this information with Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you have any personal knowledge that any records at CIA Headquarters were ever destroyed? Mr. CORNWELL - That is, that subject matter, your statement on the Oswald agency matter, be printed or otherwise publicized in a news publication, radio or TV or anything like that on any other occasion? Mr. GOLDSMITH - When was that? Please publish modules in offcanvas position. New York, 1989) p. 319. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And were you dismissed by the agency or did you resign? Afterwards, Joe visited him in his office and could hardly believe the change that came over him. He was not questioned by the Warren Commission. That he continued to serve in a military, or semi-military, capacity at the same time he was working for a schoolbook company is indicated by his obituary, which said he was a veteran of World War II. She said that no one by the name of Glaze was currently working for the newspaper, nor was that name among the files of past employees. [26], Pierce Allman, a local newsman, later said that after he approached the TSBD, a man he recalled as Oswald near the front of the building, directed him to a phone inside.[27]. Mr. WILCOTT - That is true, sir. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Is that list complete and does it have. This book provides the first useful, in-depth analysis of the 120 phone calls by LBJ in the week following the assassination regarding such items as the Civil Rights Act, demands made by the military and similar political power plays. Mr. WILCOTT - I can't remember, sir. After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. From April of 1965 to April of 1966, I was at Miami Station in finance, and I was handling the staff payroll. Mr. CORNWELL - On any other occasions? As described to me by Joe Bergin, Jr., son of the regional manager of Scott Foresman, working conditions changed dramatically after the assassination. We will. This would put his visit in a period sometime during the summer or fall of 1963. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. House of Representatives, According to his testimony to the Warren Commission, after graduating from high school, he worked in defense plants a little bit during the war and started working at the Texas School Book Depository.[15] The short amount of time between his graduation in late May 1945 and the end of World War II on September 2 plus his employment in defense plants seems to conflict with his claim that he joined an intelligence service and became an officer. Mr. SAWYER - What did he do -- anything? Thank you for your letter. Mr. GOLDSMITH - I take it, from your testimony, that in November of 1963, you were stationed in XXXXXXXXXXXXX Station, is that correct? They appear to be members of the security staff described by Joe Bergin, Jr. Glazes letters add a further detail that they were members of the FBI. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. In 1999, a friend and fellow researcher named Steve Gaal discovered among the listings of the JFK assassination section of the National Archives website a notice of a letter written by a Mr. Glaze to the HSCA. . CIA might handled any projects involving Oswald and for what purpose they might have used Oswald? We appreciate that, and if at, any time you think of any further way in which your testimony can be corroborated or the name of any other CIA man or any record or anything of that sort that might be available we hope you will get in touch with us and let us know about it. Mr. PREYER - Thank you. There were, as I recall, three men there, all I think in shirt sleeves. Mr. PREYER - It had no relation to your performance? Mr. CORNWELL - At what point in time did your discussions outside of the Agency first become a matter of publication in a newspaper or magazine or on television? Below is an obituary from the Austin American-Statesman published on Dec. 15, 2019. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir. Earlier that year, he graduated from Crozier Technical School in Dallas. Mr. PREYER - It was your conclusion from that talk that some of these people might have knowledge that he was a CIA agent rather than that they were speculating about it? Mr. WILCOTT - Especially after Kennedy's assassination, there was a great deal of very, very serious discontent with CIA, and the morale at the station had dropped considerably, and we heard some very, very bitter denunciations of CIA and the projects that they were undertaking. Mr. WILCOTT - From the time I left I talked at various times, especially at parties and things like that, on social occasions, with people at headquarters and with people at my station, and we would converse about it and I used to say things like, "What do you think about Oswald being connected with the CIA? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why did you wait five years? responsibilities were primarily record keeping and disbursing of funds. According to this person, shortly after going to work for Bill Schelly, she & another new employee were subjected to some rather odd questioning when considering they were hired as clerks. Mr. GOLDSMITH - How many people from the CIA did you speak to who speculated that Oswald was an agent? I have entered other webs, but this one is different because the spider leaves the web and stalks its preysometimes for many years. Mr. PREYER - Well, that is the other question that I want to be very sure on. My actions were less courageous than they were the result of being nave. Read instantly on your browser with Kindle for Web. If Shelleys claim to Glaze about his association with the CIA is true, it indicates that he was leading a double life as a schoolbook man as well as an intelligence operative. as members of the F.B.I., approached the two new employees at work & took them to an empty room inside the building. The Warren Commission did all they could to delay the arrival time on the first floor by Adams and Styles in order to remove the two girls from the stairs when Oswald would have likely been on them. 1964, of course, the Vietnam war was going on and Lyndon Johnson was now president. Wilcott worked in the accounting department and was in charge of disbursement of cash funds. It was about XXX I think, was our actual roster was. or C.I.A. Did you recognize any part of it, the first two letters or the last portions of it, as referring to any geographic area or any type of activity or anything like that? In addition, all of my interview notes and tapes inexplicably disappeared. Mr. WILCOTT - In 1968. Unable to add item to List. Mr. CORNWELL - Had you ever run into any similar cryptonym? The CIA and the JFK Assassination. Yet the mere existence of oversized boxes on the premises does not constitute proof of ongoing illegal activities. It was a guard-type function at the station, which I worked for overtime. Download the free Kindle app and start reading Kindle books instantly on your smartphone, tablet, or computer - no Kindle device required. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you have any knowledge of any record of the CIA at the XXXXXXXX Station ever being destroyed out of the ordinary course of business, not as a matter of routine? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Mr. Wilcott, did I ask you to prepare a list of CIA Case Officers working at XXXXXXXXX Station in 1963? Bring your club to Amazon Book Clubs, start a new book club and invite your friends to join, or find a club thats right for you for free. Mr. WILCOTT - My wife and I both left the CIA because we became convinced that what CIA was doing couldn't be reconciled to basic principles of democracy or basic principles of humanism. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And have you just described one of those instances to us? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did this Case Officer tell you what Oswald's cryptonym was? Mr. CORNWELL - In the conversations you had with other CIA employees, the six or seven persons who purported to have good information about the use of Oswald as an agent, did any of those people say anything to you which suggested that the CIA had some role in the assassination of President Kennedy? Mr. CORNWELL - Did you -- at the time you made the decision to discuss outside of the Agency this matter, did you focus on the secrecy oath problem? Wilcott swore in a secret session His information was that he had been unwitt. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you know whether CIA Headquarters would have had either copies or originals of the cash disbursement files? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you have any explanation for why none of these people have come forward with this story? According to former CIA finance officer James B. Wilcott's testimony before the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA), Lee Harvey Oswald "was a regular employee, receiving a full-time salary for agent work, for doing CIA operational work." Perhaps that is why I was so unprepared during that brief step into the looking glass.. Mr. WILCOTT - Generally so, I would say, at that time. Did you contact any CIA officer or employee with respect to the secrecy oath and discuss with them whether or not you should be permitted to discuss these matters outside of the Agency? Mr. GOLDSMITH - And are you saying then that you attempted to investigate this allegation? Having a double life would not have made Shelley unique among the people who worked at the book depository. You mentioned the day after the assassination you talked to someone at the station about it. Mar 26, 2017, 6:30:52 PM to The dubious allegations of James Wilcott, a former CIA finance officer who testified before the HSCA in executive session, are still repeated by theorists promoting. As Rose points out, this is a bit odd also, since most of the building witnesses were taken to the sheriffs office, which was much closer to the TSBD than police headquarters. (At this time the school book depository had been relocated to a warehouse near the intersection of Royal Lane and Interstate 35.). Mr. GOLDSMITH - Mr. Wilcott, how long were these advance books retained? According to one of the FBI reports of the first interrogation of Oswald in the Dallas homicide office: OSWALD stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor and stood around and had lunch in the employees lunch room. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Well, in other words, if you got the information three months after the assassination, Oswald had already been dead for three months, is that right? Mr. GOLDSMITH - What were these people's names? Mr. WILCOTT - That is correct. During the period, it was unvouchered funds, and my duties were general accounting, and my rate in status was GS-5. As many JFK researchers know, James Wilcott was a CIA accountant from May 1957 through April 1966. The building is a large, one-story, concrete tilt-up, ideal for storing and moving huge quantities of material goods with forklifts and palettes. Those generations who were there in 1963 are grateful that people like you are continuing the pursuit and taking another look at events which may have been too shocking for the rest of us to ever fully comprehend. The memo said that Oswalds FBI informant number was S172 and that his CIA number was 110669. She died in 1969. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I did. According to former CIA finance officer James B. Wilcotts testimony before the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA), Lee Harvey Oswald was a regular employee, receiving a full-time salary for agent work, for doing CIA operational work.[1] A memorandum by Warren Commission general counsel J. Lee Rankin said that Oswalds CIA payroll number was 110669. Wilcott was a private pilot and landed his plane at noon, 11-23-63, Tokyo time. Mr. GOLDSMITH - What is the basis for that opinion? Your interest in the work of our Committee is appreciated. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. But in the light of the information in this essay, it seems interesting that it was Shelly and Truly who took the name of Oswald to the police. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Write to Editor@jfkfacts.org. WEDNESDAY, MARCH 22, 1978 . Mr. CORNWELL - Is that the only reason? Mr. WILCOTT - My current one that I had on my counter. Mr. WILCOTT - They were extremely vulgar and I don't think that I should give the full context of them. During a phone conversation, he told me that he had a letter that mentioned Shelley joining the CIA. He was still there when Garner retired in 1986. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Was Jerry Fox one of the people that made. Upon exiting the elevator, he saw a short hallway. The day after, perhaps, two or three weeks after, the kind of talk was that CIA was somehow connected. Mr. WILCOTT - I was afraid quite frankly. The other one was the Lone Star School Book Depository, also located in the city of Dallas. Shelley told Glaze that he himself was arrested for the assassination. I made my call and left. This was just prior to moving to Langley, in finance, and my duties there were policing accounts, and included auditing of special accounts. [3] Telephone interviews of Campbell March 19, 1994; Jones, March 19, 1994; Williams, April 4, 1994; Garner, August 14, 1999. Mr. GOLDSMITH - How many people in the CIA? Mr. WILCOTT - Oh, yes. Upon request, the National Archives sent me a copy of the letter. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you bring your allegation to the attention of the Warren Commission? Mr. WILCOTT - That is true, sir. Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for JFK Assassination : The James B. Wilcott Files And The CIA Oswald Project: An Investigative Report at Amazon.com. Mr. GOLDSMITH - To your knowledge, would any records at CIA Headquarters document that Oswald was a CIA agent? Support JFK Facts Here's how you can help: Mr. GOLDSMITH - And what did he tell you the cryptonym was? Its perhaps a moot point anyway, because based on what youve told me, you now know more than I do. TESTIMONY OF JAMES B. WILCOTT, A FORMER EMPLOYEE OF THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY: Mr. GOLDSMITH - For the record, would you please state your name and address and occupation? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, he was. Mr. WILCOTT - Very much. 25-26. I remember hearing about some CIA people who had somehow helped the right-wing Minute Men in Texas to get arms, originally intended for the invasion. Among the Dallas individuals and companies engaged in supplying arms to Cuban exiles and the Minute Men might have been the ones occupying the building at 411 Elm Street. I was on the executive committee along with doctors and lawyers and some of the most respected people in the community. Many notes and gifts, often created by him, are left for us as a tribute to his kindness and love. I will be back in about 10 minutes. Apparently, security measures to keep people from talking continued even after they went into retirement or found other occupations. I will ask if you will stand and be sworn. These companies were part of a complex system involving: (a) the state legislature, which purchased textbooks through a process called adoption, (b) the publishers, who were responsible for maintaining sufficient reserves, (c) the book depositories, which received the books, stored them, and shipped them out as needed to schools around the state. Wilcott also claimed that while at his station assignment in Japan, it was common knowledge that Lee Harvey Oswald worked for the CIA. Mr. SAWYER - Well, what were your antiwar activities that you refer to? Mr. GOLDSMITH - So basically, you checked only one of the advance books, is that correct? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir, early 1964. Mr. CORNWELL - What group was it? suspicious that many of the other things that happened may have had as its source the CIA. That is all I have. Can you recall whether the tone of it was rumor or shop talk or was the tone of it that "this is true"? Instead, he might have been one of the temporary musicians. It doesn't have every one. In the new 2017 November release of JFK documents, he was interviewed in executive session under oath by the House Select Committee On Assassinations on March 22,1978. Also in this investigative report is information and connections on prime suspects : CIA Agent William King Harvey, CIA Agent George Joannides , CIA Agent David Altee Phillips and the confessions of CIA agent David Sanchez Morals and E Howard Hunt. Mr. CORNWELL - Do you have any knowledge, based upon your tenure XXXXXXX as to who would have trained Oswald in the Russian language if that occurred? Mr. SAWYER - Who told this to the community development, people? Dedicated to the political vision and legacy of John and Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr., and Malcolm X,and to the investigation of their murders. James B. Wilcott worked for the CIA from May of 1957 to April of 1966. This was about, believe -- about October of 1975. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - In conversation. Mr. WILCOTT - That is correct, sir. . Walther was sure they were not as high as the sixth floor. I will give my card to the Committee. Dean was the son of Elzie L. Glaze and Geneva I. Glaze and was born in Lubbock, Texas. Mr. WILCOTT - That is true. There was a lot of excitement going on at the station after the Kennedy assassination. After failing to get anywhere, I let the matter sit for six years. She confided this information to Mrs. Bergin and told her that she had a copy of the First Ladys dress, pink in color with the black velvet collar. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. [23], The man using the pay phone was Shelley, for in an affidavit made out that same afternoon, he said, "I went back into the building [from outside where he viewed the shooting of the president] and went inside and called my wife and told her what happened. At the time he visited the place, Scott Foresman was gone, and a carpet company was occupying the building. And perhaps even having people inside the TSBD as assets. Towards the end of my tour of duty, I heard certain things about Oswald somehow being connected with the agency, and I didn't really believe this when I heard it, and I thought it was absurd. Mr. DODD - When you were told all of this? Mr. GOLDSMITH - If the agency, in fact, was run on the "need-to-know" basis, how would you account for so many people supposedly knowing that Oswald was an agent? Mr. PREYER - And dozens of others talked to you in a general, speculative manner? He closed his 1989 letter with a lurid metaphor: I will help any wayI just want to be forewarned. Mr. GOLDSMITH - However, your testimony is that you spoke to only six people as an estimate who indicated that Oswald was a CIA agent -- and when I say six people, I mean six CIA people, is that correct? He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman BILL SHELLEY, and thereafter went home. [3], Actually, the move took place a few months before the assassination. With perhaps two CIA agents on the same premises, a careful scrutiny of the company they worked for is needed to understand what happened the day President Kennedy was killed. What, on recollection, strikes me as possibly significant is that all three seemed to be exceedingly calm and relaxed, compared to the pandemonium which existed right outside their front door. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, in a speculative manner. Mr. WILCOTT - The basis for that is discussions that I had with people at the XXXXX Station. Mr. WILCOTT - Did you vote for President Kennedy? Mr. GOLDSMITH - What do you mean by the term "agent"? Consider the following letter: Re: THE ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY, While working as a journalist in Dallas late in 1974 and early 1975, I met and spoke with Lee Harvey Oswalds supervisor at the Texas School Book Depository in Dallas, Texas. This employee said that fellow employees were subjected to similar job interviews by government agents. Since a cubic foot of books is about 25 to 30 pounds, a box such as this, when loaded with books, would have weighed around 375 to 450 poundstoo heavy to manage with a handcart. Admittedly, there is no record of Shelleys arrest, but that does not necessarily mean Glaze was wrong. Dr. King was killed by one rifle shot fired from in front of him. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. WEDNESDAY, MARCH 22, 1978 By comparing the window next to them, which measured 14 inches off the floor, one box was about 15 x 30 x 60 inches, and thus had an estimated capacity of 15 cubic feet. * Assassination Archives and Research Center leads the fight in federal court for full JFK disclosure. Mr. DODD - In 1957? Mr. DODD - And the information given you occurred sometime three months after the actual assassination. [9] Carolyn Arnold statement in Byrd/TSBD Concerns posted by Martin Barkley on May 24, 2000 on the JFK Today website. At my request, he sent me a copy. Mr. WILCOTT - No. I will help any wayI just want to be forewarned. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Where is Concord located? that I had at my gate, and I did that with cryptonyms from time to time for something -- we would want to check back into their accounting for something. [13], (As an aside, CIA officer William Harvey worked for Bobbs-Merrill in the last years of his life as a law editor.[14]). Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. [18] Carolyn Walther, 24H522; Edwards, 24H207; Fischer, 24H208. [12] Wilcotts 3/22/78 HSCA deposition, pp. With that, I pass along my rather tiny candle, plus my best wishes and encouragement. It must have been puzzling to Glaze, as it is to us reading his letters, why a government agency would be providing security for a privately-owned company. Do you solemnly swear that the evidence you are about to give before this subcommittee will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Mr. PREYER - Under our committee rules, Mr. Wilcott, a witness is entitled, at the conclusion of the questioning, to make a five-minute statement if he wishes or to give a fuller explanation of any of his answers; so that at this time we make that five minutes available to you if you care to elaborate or say anything further. I was scared until the Carter Administration. Mr. WILCOTT - June of 1964. These ebooks can only be redeemed by recipients in the US. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And when you testified earlier that you learned Oswald's cryptonym, by that do you mean that you learned both Oswald's personal cryptonym and his project cryptonym, or was it one of the two? Mr. PREYER - That was shop talk, speculation, I gather; people were saying that the CIA is somehow connected with it. Mr. WILCOTT - That was late '68 or perhaps early 1969. Mr. SAWYER - Do you distinguish between an agent and a paid informant or do you use those terms interchangeably? At the end of. 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