It says that in order to know you first have to be willing to completely not know, in which case the universe will be open to you. "Tayler Tweed's suicide and Aaron Poulin's: Both happened in So. So, to answer your question, Gtsix, about .how does the Church feel about psychiatry and receiving psychiatric treatment?, my answers to that is : The SAME way that THOUSANDS of individuals who have ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Scientology think : uncomfortable and against it, and with VALID REASONS. I cannot believe Scientology turned this mother into coal when it comes to her own flesh and blood! Dont get me wrong, the medical field produces a lot of miracles and Im not down on them in general. I mean, just today Mike posted something basically mocking all those Scientologists who at least are trying to help at the disaster at Texas. . My judgement even though I wasnt that high on the org board was always seriously taken into account by both the Snr C/S and the ED. I dont think that there is a They, Statpush, but rather a HE. People are doxxing Cathy Tweed online. How do you know that for a fact, Alanzo, if you dont mind telling me? And what does the actual record indicate with respect to what auditing can do for it? I am glad Leah and Mike are finally getting the truth out there. Wow, what a most accurate and balanced post indeed!!! But did L. Ronald Hubbard intend it that way? We werent supposed to accept those, but the ED (a GREAT individual indeed! And they are all good friends, as far as I know. In my mind, at least the point about freedom of religion did relate to Cathy Tweed. At one point, she expressed frustration at being blamed for making her SO brother ill (whom she had not seen for years). This whole video reeks like a ad misericordiam, the logical fallacy that because someone should be pitied, theyre innocent. In short, one should realize that physical healing does not take into account the being and the repercussion on the spiritual beingness of the person., The purely physical facts of injuries, illnesses and stresses are themselves incapacitating and do themselves often require physical analysis and treatment by a doctor or nutritionist. Perhaps not along these lines, no, but perhaps we can teach them to recover the compassion that was once part of the Scientology world on a long gone past, so they can AT LEAST be able to offer sensible recommendations, and referrals to responsible psychotherapists who dont use primitive methods of healing and dangerous drugs to help their patients. The No.1 site across the UK for funeral notices, where you can search over 5,004,817 notices. He married Nelda Niceswanger on Oct. 27, 1956, in Chetek. Its similar to families who bring their kids up seeming to dote on them, but murder them in an honor killing lately. Must be Hurracaine Irma! Perhaps no more than a 70-80% of the time, I did followed LRH, , Getting back on trackwhat could the church do to reform this aspect of their religion (if were to believe Mike and Leah)? Would you like a TV show to make an episode about you and your dead daughter without your consent, and second guess you like this to millions of people? I would rather err in trusting others than in thinking that they can not change. Depression can result in death. All the quotes you have seen from Cathy Tweed came from Tonys conversation with Taylers mother the day after she buried her daughter. So how ironic it is that I refused to go to a doctor when the ch-rch insisted that I go. This is about ending the abuses as Mike and Leah are trying to get us to believe. Sorry that Alanzo spoiled our fun, haha. She was despondent about being alone for the holidays. There really is nothing there TO reform. They are quite outspoken about the barbaric psyches and the treatment of the mentally ill, yet, they will have nothing to do with the mentally ill. A lot of criticisms, but no solutions., TOTALLY in agreement with that! Shar, did you even took the time to read my looong post at this thread?? F) Getting the person to list her/his backlogged incomplete cycles of actions, and deciding on completing just one simple thing at a time. Larry Hale. Auditing is just counseling. . I am sure there are two sides to every story, and while I am not sure how supportive the Tweeds actually were, I am fully sure that A&E provided a very balanced side of the tragedy, given the most outraged friend didnt have the solid history of seeing Tayler in person. Are we that naive so as to negate that her Fight against the abuses HAS been very helpful for her career? Kaiser Earl Lynch. I suspect Mike and Leahs tactics are based on the supposition that public exposure to harmful practices results in reformation. And if by prove them wrong, you meant specific legal actions (like a lawsuit) against Leah, Mike, or A&E for saying things that werent true; then the same logic could be used the other way around : If the church is guilty of soooooooo many illegal actions and specifics abuses, then why (except for Snow White and the non productive of ANY evidence, FBI human trafficking investigation into Scn) hasnt ANY law enforcement agency taken the church to court? https://tonyortega.org/2016/04/28/a-scientologist-heading-for-suicide-the-missing-tayler-tweed-facebook-postings/. Leah and Mike heroes??? Tayler Woolston Obituary has been recently searched in a more significant amount of volume online, and moreover, people are eager to know What Was Tayler Woolston Cause Of Death. As a struggling artist with mental illness, Tayler had relied on her parents for financial support, which she could no longer rely on. However, we assure you that we will add the factual details once they are available. Why do you think its Cathy Tweeds duty to prostrate herself before you? It isnt true that Scn doesnt believe in doctors. I dont have to agree with Leah on everything to respect her. I have to say that I have little respect for your experience with suicide survivors if it results in a comment like this. Is my post to be interpreted that there arent many, many psychiatrists who try to do the best they can do for their patients, and who concentrate on less invasive, and more alternative ways of effectively treating their patients? No, his narrative is about the punishment of DM and the destruction of the church as we know it. And what drives TV? He clearly knew NOTHING of what was actually happening. There was no need to insult you. This is all about protecting David Miscavige and the Church. What are you going to say? I sincerely hope that you are not into law, because God help us if you are!!! Cmon open your bloggers eyes. Explain to me why she was so extremely desperate to be heard. If I were to drop dead in the sauna then the cult could say, Well he passed his physical exam by a medical doctor. But the second time was before another cycle of action. Technically, what Mike and Leah are doing IS a documentary. And those things start at home. Its just sad. Are you following me all right so far, dear Henri Chef? My step-Mom asked me last week if it was true that Scientology doesnt allow its members to use medical doctors. Cuts both ways. Lets analyze this for a minute, shall we? But there is a general dysfunction in Scientology technology that treats the brain like no other organ in the body. I remember him saying something along the line that a Cult required a leader and some form of organization, and a belief system, and that there just wasnt any coordinated effort with specific leaders to destroy the church. Now you got me confused again, Marildi. You do know that Tony Ortega got that quote from Cathy Tweed about being at peace with it during a phone call he made to her on the day of Taylers funeral, right?. I think the important baseline to keep in mind is the law. In your blog post, you write There is a lot of information that neither Tony Ortega, nor Rachel Bernstein, nor Leah Remini, nor Mike Rinder have given you, yet I see no actual proof of any information, only anecdotal accounts of how they tried to help her. Mental health should be under the heading of psychotherapy not under the heading of religion. Everett R. Tweed, III "Gene" MEGGETT, S.C. - Everett R. "Gene" Tweed, III, 77, of Meggett, husband of Betty B. Tweed, died Saturday, June 27, 2009 at Roper Hospital . Harry James Tweed, 65, was a life-long resident of Cape May County, moving to Cape May at the age of seven months, to Rio Grande in 1959, and later to Middle Township. Certainly, any raw public exhibiting Type III behaviour would be refused service.. Tyler is a 2016 graduate of Marshall High School. Her funeral service took place at Saskatoon Funeral Home, 338 4th Ave North, on Monday, October 25, 2021 at 1:00 pm. This test (questionnaire, which was mostly done unmetered) was usually done by me, as I was kind of famous for spotting troublemakers even without the e-meter, and on the spot. On this episode I thought the half which addressed the young mans story in the Sea Org did a good job of showing how toxic the SO culture and mindset is. I am doing this willingly. Now, looked at from the above clarifications, do you still feel the same way about it? They either didnt fight back, or just willingly accepted what was happening to them. In my OWN organization a VERY small class V org I was sent to go see a medical doctor to get lab tests and get treated in anything found before being let to start a Life Repair program. And if the narrative of the program was not, Scientology need to be stopped and destroyed which IS the one theyve been using even if not in those words but instead a plea for reformation for the greater good, we might have gotten somewhere in terms of reformation. But I dont see him getting into a plane and going to Texas to help. (Dot) Dorothy passed away peacefully at The . Because they learned tha often more effective than medical treatment. Discussion in 'News and Current Events' started by RightOn, Jan 20, 2014. After the incredible inflow of Crazy hatred being generated by the show and coming in as comments on my blog the overwhelming majority of which I have trashed I am actually concerned for Cathy Tweeds safety. The girls drifted apart throughout the latter years of. A woman is married to a known fundamentalist Jehovah Witness minister. Can they reform? Now, a Scnist may not hold a medical doctor in the same regard as a non-Scnist, but that does not mean they do not utilize their services. Obituary SARAH AND AUGUSTUS TWEED WOODMANSEE February - 15, 1987 - June 11, 2015 Sarah Michelle Tweed Woodmansee,28, and her unborn son Augustus 'Gus' Tweed Woodmandsee, passed away at home surrounded by those who loved them most. I can see the public interest perspective with this series and and other productions that seek to find a story and tell it,, it has been created with key words cult secret confidential gulag ,, and so on not to mention the mood music and lighting,,, Its what media does,, its never enough just to have a story confined to the specifics and analyse it,,,no one buys that approach anymore.. Why would you want to contribute to Cathy Tweeds own inner hell? This young woman was crying for help and her mother posted a Facebook message telling people to distance themselves from her. Well the distinctions you made about those who have had psych drugs and who have been institutionalized are good things to bring up. Can you really look in the mirror and say you did everything you could (breaking the bank/spending money is one of the easiest things to do by the way because it is putting the responsibility of the real work onto others). Yes, I know that they would be refused service. They are not really interested in reform and correct justice. You are way to eager to defend Cathy and this so called church. Tyler Tweeds family and friends are in deep grief, and lets pray for them to receive peace. Lila will be intered beside her husband Dan, at St. Carthagh's Cemetery, Tweed, on Saturday, November 20 at 1 PM CASSIBO: Agnes Theresa, at Belmont Long Term Care, Belleville, on October 15, 2021. I couldnt have said it any better, Statpush! `Anyone who knowingly follows a man like Hubbard deserves exactly what they get. But we auditors know better than to hate and punish. This simply makes critics into hysterical ninnies who should continue to be ignored by anyone with legal power and who is serious about reforming scientology. She was a loving mother and enjoyed crafts, cooking, quilting, painting . The video from Cathy Tweed reeks of damage control. And the PTS Type III declare for onlines public. That point aside, what you say in the following about the church is really the basic and most important issue at stake: If auditors were licensed, then they could not forbid people from getting the medical treatment they need without losing their license.. So much for the anti-Scientology narrative regarding Scientologists not using or seeking proper medical care. It sounds a lot like the viewpoint of church Scientologists, dont you think? In fact, most of the time, this specific service is charged around $80-$125 an hour by such priests. He was a graduate of Middle Township High School's "Class of 69" and was a member of the reunion committee, helping to plan all class reunions. But maybe others didnt know the true story of how Tony Ortega got that quote from Cathy Tweed. This aspect of Hubbard and Scn always irked me. God bless Tayler. Ms Remini and her team arent spreading hate. This screams Scientology to me. Guest12, of course that the church have committed many Human Rights abuses, and of course that there is truth to those stories. Hubbard had some harsh words for medicos and learned men, in general. But, if that condition did not resolve they would seek traditional medical treatment. I do feel, from being a member for 30 years, that my compassion and humanity was eroded. You end up having to lie and cover over important information and over simplify things to mold disconnection into a weapon that creates a moral panic around scientology. Tayler, feeling herself worse off after her last auditing cycle and a recent break-up, refused more auditing. Now, the anti-Scientology narrative and the anti-Scientologists would attempt us to believe that LRH was only a lunatic who thought that psychiatry was guilty of many Human Rights abuses, and of many abusive treatments; and that ONLY Scientology opposes psychiatry. What if Tayler was your daughter? Now, I challenge anyone to show me ANY reference where Scientology prohibits seeing a medical doctor; ANY. I rest my case! Truth and fairness are not necessarily part of that equation. But thats obviously not good enough for you. Why is that? This aspect of Hubbard and Scn always irked me. These could be briefly catalogued as: (and he gives a list). I was actually picturing Paul Haggis when I typed Alex Gibney. What we need to do is to push for reformation with an specific message (non accusative, non punitive, non harshly critical) repeated over and over again, while showing specific instances that totally prove our points. Just THESE links would be enough to prove my point : https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sideways-view/201505/the-anti-psychiatry-movement. Im truly amazed at how much the descriptions of their students barriers to awakening sound like a description of the reactive mind! Mr. Ricky Dale Tweed, age 54, Telford, passed away Wednesday, August 13, 2014 from injuries sustained in an automobile accident. Scn, as an activity, is very much self-centered; and VERY focused on the able (e.g. This is what I call being fair to all sides!! Sorry for all my delusional conspiracies, haha. He was born February 13, 1998, in Madison, WI to Steven and Jo Ann Tweed. 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