Of course, I had no way to interpret that. The long and the short of it was that God had a new direction and, in essence,He was sending me to Kansas City. He was not, and I emphasize not, asked to leave our church. Immortalization for a Melchizedek Priesthood? Bob is so integral in the first 18 months of our history, The grandiose vision of the Movement was, in fact, expanded by a whole series of visions that Bob Jones supposedly had between 1974 and 1983. Yes, Im going to write and spread His love because I love Him and His people, and my heart is to live for Him. The 2030s will reveal the family of God. Feb.4, 1930 - Feb.14, 2014 Bob Jones' death is being mourned by Christians around the world, while his life is being recounted and celebrated. So if youve got short range plans, make long range plans(Bob Joneswith Todd Bentley at the Lakeland Florida revival, 5/13/08 evening service, on God TV. Here we have three different reports as to the age Bob 1st saw the white horse, -7, 9, 13! The 2000 would reveal the glory of God. Consider what some of the statements mean in relation to the Latter Rain teaching of Jones and associates and to the Bible. We say, Lord, we dont throw out prophecy. The state of the prophetic is in serious disrepair, and I just cant imagine any possible revival coming in the midst of this, esp. This is very troubling! If you want to change something, you must believe it enough to speak it. . I even made several attempts at unity only to find that I had been prophesied over by another of the resident prophets. Bob Jones and Mike Bickle are two peas in a pod when it comes to non- biblical prophetic experiences and revelation. And in thy name cast out devils and in thy name done many wonderful works? BOB JONES WINDS UP IN A MENTAL INSTITUTION BJ: In my late 30s, my nerves wentI went to Topeka (the Veterans Hospital mental ward); I signed in and I immediately run off and I got in hell again, so they took me back and I thought, Ive got to set it out. So I walked the halls out there night and day. MB: And after (over 20) years of alcoholism and street fighting and all the gambling and etc., etc., and so now, he is so steeped in alcoholism BJ: It was hell. They were killed on a motorcycle two days later. MB: Because they were in sin. Mike Bickle a close friend of Jones relates the degree of supernatural visitation Bob Jones received nightly:You know, Im going to tell you something about Bob. The Rev. cause most of them were negativethey threw him out as being in the occult and to putting curses on people. e. Grandma Wynn, age 89; died January 12, 1978. Hebrews 1: IN TIMES PAST, God spoke to the fathers through the prophets. In the 1990's, we began to get a revelation of the Government of God. Most ministries in Kansas City who had contact with him did not believe his prophecies and visions were truly from God. According to her bio at the Elijah List, "Bonnie moved to Charlotte, North Carolina, in 2001 to attend Morning Star School of Ministry; in 2005 she met Bob Jones and they were married the following year (he died in 2014). OFFERINGS can be mailed or made online with with Visa, Mastercard, Discover, or Paypal. Facebook, 13 Feb. 2023, https://www.facebook.com/vladhungrygen/posts/753777992780266, Furthermore, Pastor Vlad revealed that a revival also broke out on the campus 50 years ago in February 1970., https://www.facebook.com/vladhungrygen/posts/753777992780266, After the dean invited students to share testimonies at the chapel service, students continued worshipping and praying for 144 hours, he said. Apparently, a chapel service started on Wednesday at ten in the morning with 1,600 students. Since then, it has not stopped and is still continuing today. g.The sad irony is that so many of those same mystical experiences and revelations have no support whatsoever from Scripture, and many defy the scriptural record entirely. If you talk poverty, youll have it. The Holy of Holies which your children are called to enter in can crash that threshold. This is my Yes to Papa God. This is hardly the case as they use Revelation 19:10-11 as a proof text. Ligle logle lazie logle. Bonnie and Lyn did a great job on writing it. They wont do anything to you. And immediately, I cried out for help. Do you need a new Bible or Christian Gifts? They are listening to tails. Bob Jones first became known by being part of the Kansas city prophets back in the 1980's. During this time period there was a group called Grace Ministries' ministerial team which consisted of Paul Cain, Bob Jones, John Paul Jackson, David Parker, Jim Goll, Francis Frangipane and Mike Bickle that were of the former the Kansas City . Its yea and amen, and thats what Hes calling you into: that holy place of divine health. I had hoped that there would have been some discipline taken at S.K.C.F. The 1980s reveal the prophets of God. I said, Oh, Lord, help us! (F88, p.11). Jones is whom Todd Bentley looks to as a senior prophet and mentor. At the time of his investigation, Nolen was chief of surgery at Meeker County Hospital in Litchfield, Minnesota. But on repentance, testimonies, the manifest presence of God., ______________________ I said, Five or ten a night! He said, Oh, yes, all the time. And a ball of fire danced all over that basement, and didnt hurt me. to one aspiring to public ministry. Biblical tongues were real languages that were spoken miraculously by those who had never learned the languages. Bob Jones experienced correction., not rejection. So that that glorious Church might be revealed in the last daysbecause the Lord Jesus is worthy to be lifted up by a Church that has reached the full maturity of the God-man! (Bob Jones, tape, Visions and Revelations, 1988.). , Jan. 9, 1901). A bolt of lightning. Bob and Bonnie Jones, Fort Mill, SC Bob had a vision of a sword of light and power; it was like - . (fromhttp://www.letusreason.org/Latrain52.htm. I whole heartedly agree with all gospel action, but signs are not being scrutinized, prophecies and many prophets are not being examined. In fact Jones has seen the next 50 years unfold, and Jesus did not come back, instead we get to establish the kingdom on earth. But from that time forth my hands worked funny. Four years later, at age thirteen, he claims he was escorted to the throne room of God in heaven (like Cerullo and others). I have only listened to a few of the tapes from Kansas City Fellowship, and read only a few of their publications. Naturally I rejected the prophesy as being false & was in turn rejected by them for being false. what did it look like? Jones- It looked like gold and it looked like light and it was a light not like the light you see here which is artificial, he responded, adding that the light, the glory of the Lord, frightened him. He has been a major influence behind the new revival through Todd Bentley, a Toronto style copy. T he death of Bob Jones, Sr., at age 84 last month closed the era of hard-hitting evangelists of the Billy Sunday ilk, which reached its peak between the two world wars. Derek was going over the Conference and talking about where we were going. Mike BicklesWierd Church In St. Louis Sheffield Family Life Center April 17, 1990 Dear Ernie: Greetings in the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ! (Why dont you) run away tonight and go back to town and get your gun and go kill them people, and then come back and sign into Veterans Hospital. Adams is facing . A prominent figure in the New Apostolic Reformatio n, Jones was the most controversial of the ' Kansas City Prophets .'. 1Here is a trustworthy saying: Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task. {1895} We are getting ready for the last revelation. Bickle and Jones relate the story of an angel revealing that God would appear to Bickle and his brother in law and associate pastor Bob Scott in the form of another person named Don through a vision or dream to confirm Jones ministry. There is only one seed we need to be concerned about- it is the word of God which we are actually reborn with (1 Pt.1:23) not a physical seed of man. Their 2020 super bowl win made headlines as it was a historical moment for the Chiefs as it had been 50 long years since their last championship. The following is a prophecy of Bob Jones of the great coming revival, recorded shortly before his death. died March 29, 1976, drowned at Swope Park. His 1st spurious encounter, is with an appearance, supposedly, of the Arch Angel Gabriel, riding a talking white horse. This will be the end generation that is foreknown and predestinated to inherit all things. Now 2000 years ago the Savior was revealed. The grandiose vision of the Movement was, in fact, expanded by a whole series of visions that Bob Jones supposedly had between 1974 and 1983:MB:When Bob first walked in the office on March 7, 1983, he said, Ive come to get you to believe in a movement that is worldwide and that is going to touch the nations of the earth withsuch power and glory that it will go far beyond the book of Acts. The more you understand the reality and the presence, the more you can acceptthe presence of these healing violet flame angels,the closer, they will come and the greater their strength and power ofthat sacred fire wrapped around you (I Am healing decrees, Saint Germaine press 1976 p.6). Is this Jesus the same one in the Bible? 14:3 As a self-proclaimed prophet, with no history with the Body of Christ, no respect for leadership, and no reception to correction, these judgement prophecies were totally out of Biblical order. He starts getting five to ten dreams and visions a night from 1974 to the present, supposedly from God. We had a youth camp there. Having had the (nameless) prophet (I should say shameless prophet) under my pastoral care for a few months prior to the creation of S.K.C.F., I can verify that he was at that time very unstable in his behavior. The CORPORATE Christ they promote is identical to the Cosmic Christ of the occultics. They were not in sin. Much of our material is available for free, such as the hundreds of articles at the Way of Life web site. 100 years ago the Holy Spirit was revealed. Recing Bob Jones false prophecies was not Mikes first major error. Youre already bowing down to that altar of incense. Theres nobody in the natural that had a more integral role in establishing the foundations in that kind of prophetic way than Bob. Many Christians are posting about the prophecy again believing that these events are connected. Dr. Bob Jones Jr., the chancellor and board chairman of Bob Jones University in Greenville, S.C., who in the late 1970's forfeited his college's Federal tax exemption rather than permit . And, The labourer is worthy of his reward" (1 Timothy 5:18). William Branham, Oral Roberts, AA Allen. (Mike Bickle with Bob Jones,Visions and Revelations, transcript, series of five tapes from the fall of 1988.). This full maturity is what is called the Manifested Sons of God doctrine that came from the Latter Rain Heresy. The 1990s reveal the government of God. Morningstar Prophetic Newsletter. Bob Jones was never asked to leave the church; Bob Jones did not publicly give warning to the church.(Testimony Letter 33), Testimonies From Other Pastors In Kansas City Of Bobs Behaviour, I can verity that he (Bob Jones) was at that time very unstable in his behaviorCAMERON HARVESTER CHURCHFebruary 28, 1990 Dear Ernie, I listened to your tape, do we just keep smiling and say nothing? this last week and thought Id drop you a line to let you know how I feel about it personally & how I am responding to the calls that I have received. , April 11, 2009). magazine, and pastor of the 2,000-member Tabernacle Church in Melbourne, Florida. And some of them has never come back to the Lord since then., MB: So. Your email address will not be published. Another pastor in Kansas City, went to Mike with concerns about Bob, when he learned that Bob was now at Mikes church, because Bob had formerly been with him. Whats interesting is that this time revival is happening at Asbury College. http://www.banner.org.uk/kcp/Abberent%20Practises.pdf p.41, Bob and Mikes VersionA FABRICATED STORY CONCERNING BOB JONES p.42 The following story, which is often told by Mike Bickle to give credibility to Bob Jones as a prophet, is a complete fabrication of facts. 3:10-13, Recing Bob Jones false prophecies was not Mikes first major error. In CHRIST (signed), (Dr.) George (Westlake Jr. Senior Pastor), http://www.mikebickle.org.edgesuite.net/MikeBickleVOD/2009/20090917A-T The_Early_Days_Cairo_Egypt_and_the Solemn_Assembly_IPH01.pdf. His . , Dr. William Nolen dedicated an entire chapter to his investigation of Kuhlmans healing crusades. The 1980's began to reveal the Prophets of God; people that get the inspired word. YOU HAVE WHAT YOU SPEAK. Anytime God is going to start a fire, he starts it with lightning. Prophecy is primarily for speak(ing) to men for their edification, encouragement, and comfort. . These type of descriptions and non- conformity to the Bibles Jesus certainly raises the suspicion of a another Jesus, or spirit at work. Things that we encourage you to share include the audio sermons, O Timothy magazine, FBIS articles, and the free eVideos and free eBooks. THE GOLDEN EARRING BOB JONES: "This Harry Dematrillia -- A strongly gifted prophet who ministered often with Bob Jones in the early days of the Kansas City . And its going to be those that have that earring in and hear what God is saying. Two nights! So we realize that; so whats our reaction to that? And you know there is about a list of 12 people that are the problems why you are here. Box 610368, Port Huron, MI 48061. , from its inception, has been marred deeply by moral scandals and deception, and nothing has changed. for Oct. 29, 2015, the church is standing with its crooked leaders (City Harvest Founder Kong Hee Thanks Congregation for Grace and Love as Wife Sun Ho Is Ordained as Pastor, Oct. 29, 2015). According to Bob Jones when he was 13- The first time I ever seen the white horse was when an angel called Gabriel was riding. I watched one interview on TV where the translator was trying to salvage what appeared to be the ramblings of a man that was not coherent in his speech and had to reinterpret nearly everything said. Add to thatthe funeral was held in my church; I preached the funeral message and gave an invitation to accept Christ, and several young people took Jesus as their Savior that day. (Testimony Letter 11), The church member:At the maximum, six people of all ages died over a 2-year period, from March 29, 1976, to January 12, 1978: a. Dennis Wagner, age 19;. And BIckle and Bill Johnson are promoting a Second Pentecost which is the coming ONE WORLD CHURCH. Jones always went first class. . magazine observed that in just a few months, members of his new congregation were dancing in the aisles in their new facility, and the talented young preacher was back on the conference circuit, no questions asked. His purpose for this people, in a hum-an sense, had some of its roots back in the hills of Arkansas when Bob was, ah, a young boy. MB: ya know, Im going to tell you something about Bob: Ever since that time in 74 when he was filled with the Holy Spirit, he began to see the technicolor visions and the Lord began to visit him. As told above, Bob out right lied about his warning prophecies, at Berean Baptist Church, and actually recounted two different stories, both lies, as the pastor of the church and another member, recounted what actually transpired. He said, Oh, were collecting those who are foreknown and predestinated for the end-times, for you see, theyll be the best of all the seed thats ever been. he said,Because they rejected me many placesand the Lord has shown me many times, and He (God) said this, this group that was yet to come, He said they would never, ever reject me. He said, This is my family till the end. And I thought, He s got to be the false prophet for sure. Any guy that prophesies that Imgoing to accept him, he is for sure the false prophet. And a ball of fire danced all over that basement, and didnt hurt me. I first met Bob Jones in the mid 1970's, but the first major prophetic word I heard him give was at the debriefing meeting held by Derek Prince after the '77 Charismatic Renewal Conference. For information see: www.wayoflife.org/about/makeanoffering.html. Because the Lord told Bob that he was to come to help establish clarity and faith in the hearts of those young people so that when they believed, then there would be a whole new ability for the Lord to work in our midstwhen we believed the things about this movement. And in six weeks, seven of the youth died in six weeks. McClendon enjoys the spotlight on Christian television, and he shares pulpits with top leaders in our movement (Lee Grady, Sin in the Camp,. . , Aug. 11, 2010). And these will be like grandchildren to youeven those that you minister to wont be this generation; their children will be. Go kill them or forgive them (F88, p. 6)EDITORS NOTE: He does eventually forgive them. I was inside I didnt have my wires grounded in the basement down there, and I grabbed ahold of the refrigerator, and lightning hit the wires outside, and a great blue flame came in. Besides that, he was never a member. (Testimony Letter 11-Full report below). 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